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    #1 2025-01-28 11:32:13

    andrzejek
    Member
    Registered: 2024-12-09
    Posts: 28

    POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER cannot converge

    Hello,

    My input:

    ! bl3yp ma-def2-tzvp d4
    ! tightscf pal8
    ! opt freq smd(water)
    %maxcore 4000
    *xyzfile -2 2 excited-state-ea.xyz

    Fails at  "POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER":

    POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER
    ----------------------------
    
      ITERATION   0:   ||err||_max =   3.6591e+17 (  31.6 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   1:   ||err||_max =   1.1252e+05 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   2:   ||err||_max =   2.7495e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   3:   ||err||_max =   3.3596e+04 (  31.4 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   4:   ||err||_max =   4.2711e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   5:   ||err||_max =   4.1965e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   6: Error in Gauss_Jordan! Trying to shrink linear equation system (ipert=0, ndel=0)...
      ||err||_max =   2.7710e+04 (  31.0 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   7:   ||err||_max =   1.4035e+05 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   8:   ||err||_max =   5.3829e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION   9:   ||err||_max =   8.8313e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  10:   ||err||_max =   3.3614e+06 (  30.8 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  11:   ||err||_max =   1.0903e+05 (  31.0 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  12:   ||err||_max =   2.8663e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  13:   ||err||_max =   2.2210e+06 (  31.0 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  14:   ||err||_max =   1.5218e+05 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  15:   ||err||_max =   8.2094e+04 (  31.0 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  16:   ||err||_max =   6.3497e+04 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  17:   ||err||_max =   7.8714e+05 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  18:   ||err||_max =   1.0635e+05 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  19:   ||err||_max =   1.8134e+04 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  20:   ||err||_max =   2.0301e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  21:   ||err||_max =   1.0639e+05 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  22:   ||err||_max =   5.4573e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  23:   ||err||_max =   1.8056e+05 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  24:   ||err||_max =   1.2205e+05 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  25:   ||err||_max =   4.5604e+04 (  30.9 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  26:   ||err||_max =   7.2419e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  27:   ||err||_max =   3.3379e+04 (  31.4 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  28:   ||err||_max =   2.6386e+04 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  29:   ||err||_max =   1.7732e+04 (  31.1 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  30:   ||err||_max =   9.2973e+03 (  31.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  31:   ||err||_max =   6.8638e+03 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  32:   ||err||_max =   3.7657e+05 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  33:   ||err||_max =   1.7337e+05 (  31.4 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  34:   ||err||_max =   1.4979e+05 (  31.5 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  35:   ||err||_max =   7.8054e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  36:   ||err||_max =   2.4582e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  37:   ||err||_max =   2.1026e+04 (  31.3 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  38:   ||err||_max =   2.5480e+04 (  31.5 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  39:   ||err||_max =   4.7503e+04 (  31.6 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  40:   ||err||_max =   1.7864e+04 (  31.5 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  41:   ||err||_max =   1.5097e+04 (  31.6 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  42:   ||err||_max =   4.1668e+04 (  31.6 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  43:   ||err||_max =   1.1161e+04 (  31.5 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  44:   ||err||_max =   1.0860e+04 (  31.9 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  45:   ||err||_max =   1.2447e+04 (  31.9 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  46:   ||err||_max =   1.1827e+05 (  31.9 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  47:   ||err||_max =   1.2149e+06 (  31.6 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  48:   ||err||_max =   1.0375e+06 (  31.8 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  49:   ||err||_max =   3.4252e+04 (  31.8 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  50:   ||err||_max =   1.7373e+04 (  31.9 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  51:   ||err||_max =   1.3876e+04 (  31.8 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  52:   ||err||_max =   2.2025e+05 (  32.2 sec   0/ 87 done)
      ITERATION  53:   ||err||_max =   1.5354e+04 (  32.0 sec   0/ 87 done)

    This holds not true for the job without TIGHTSCF but I use it thoroughly so cannot just get rid of it...
    What could I do about it?

    Thanks.

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    #2 2025-01-28 12:06:33

    sobereva
    Tian Lu (Multiwfn developer)
    From: Beijing
    Registered: 2017-09-11
    Posts: 2,011
    Website

    Re: POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER cannot converge

    Perhaps fine-tune CPSCF solver may be helpful, search "CP-SCF Options" in ORCA manual.

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    #3 2025-01-28 12:59:19

    andrzejek
    Member
    Registered: 2024-12-09
    Posts: 28

    Re: POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER cannot converge

    Hello Tian Lu,
    For the options available here (https://www.faccts.de/docs/orca/6.0/man … cpscf.html), I tried with DIIS and CG as different solvers but fails.
    Wondering what else I could change not to alters results too much?

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    #4 2025-01-28 13:48:39

    sobereva
    Tian Lu (Multiwfn developer)
    From: Beijing
    Registered: 2017-09-11
    Posts: 2,011
    Website

    Re: POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER cannot converge

    I'm not sure. I have little experience in using ORCA to perform frequency analysis, I almost always do this by Gaussian, whose CPSCF code is more efficient and robust.

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    #5 2025-01-28 13:56:48

    andrzejek
    Member
    Registered: 2024-12-09
    Posts: 28

    Re: POPLE LINEAR EQUATION SOLVER cannot converge

    Okey, thanks anyway !

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